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		<title>By: Martin Christy</title>
		<link>http://www.seventypercent.com/2007/09/ethical-chocolate/#comment-4949</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Christy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ollie,

Re Montezuma&#039;s, they got all legal on us and threatened to take action for writing about them in the context of this post. You can draw your own conclusions about a company that feels the need to do that kind of thing. As we don&#039;t have a legal defence budget, it was easier to remove the paragraph and move onto writing about other companies.

A lot has changed since that Guardian article. Firstly we do now have two bean to bar fine chocolate makers in the UK (Willie Harcourt-Cooze - http://www.williescacao.com and Duffy Sheardown - http://www.redstarchocolate.co.uk).

We also now have a lot of better organic and some of the single origins that have been around are finally trumpeting their certification - like Michel Cluizel&#039;s Los Anconès, which is now &#039;organic&#039;. It&#039;s great that their are now some real organic &#039;fine&#039; bars, but they are tiny fraction of the whole market.

At the same time, there is even more generic, industrial, &#039;value added&#039; organic around and I think the core message of this post still applies - the only way you can be truly sure about the ethical quality of a chocolate your eating is to know where the cacao has come from. Generic brands with lots of marketing,romanticism and &#039;worthy&#039; certifications are not the way to go, in my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ollie,</p>
<p>Re Montezuma&#8217;s, they got all legal on us and threatened to take action for writing about them in the context of this post. You can draw your own conclusions about a company that feels the need to do that kind of thing. As we don&#8217;t have a legal defence budget, it was easier to remove the paragraph and move onto writing about other companies.</p>
<p>A lot has changed since that Guardian article. Firstly we do now have two bean to bar fine chocolate makers in the UK (Willie Harcourt-Cooze &#8211; <a href="http://www.williescacao.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.williescacao.com</a> and Duffy Sheardown &#8211; <a href="http://www.redstarchocolate.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.redstarchocolate.co.uk</a>).</p>
<p>We also now have a lot of better organic and some of the single origins that have been around are finally trumpeting their certification &#8211; like Michel Cluizel&#8217;s Los Anconès, which is now &#8216;organic&#8217;. It&#8217;s great that their are now some real organic &#8216;fine&#8217; bars, but they are tiny fraction of the whole market.</p>
<p>At the same time, there is even more generic, industrial, &#8216;value added&#8217; organic around and I think the core message of this post still applies &#8211; the only way you can be truly sure about the ethical quality of a chocolate your eating is to know where the cacao has come from. Generic brands with lots of marketing,romanticism and &#8216;worthy&#8217; certifications are not the way to go, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: ollie</title>
		<link>http://www.seventypercent.com/2007/09/ethical-chocolate/#comment-4943</link>
		<dc:creator>ollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh yea, and don&#039;t domori and The Chocolate Society make excellent organic chocolate, even according to your own reviewers? (e.g. Domori Chacao Absolute)

this feature is overall worthwhile, but it does smack a little of &#039;looking for the negative&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yea, and don&#8217;t domori and The Chocolate Society make excellent organic chocolate, even according to your own reviewers? (e.g. Domori Chacao Absolute)</p>
<p>this feature is overall worthwhile, but it does smack a little of &#8216;looking for the negative&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: ollie</title>
		<link>http://www.seventypercent.com/2007/09/ethical-chocolate/#comment-4942</link>
		<dc:creator>ollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s up with this:

&quot;6. Montezuma’s

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s up with this:</p>
<p>&#8220;6. Montezuma’s</p>
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		<title>By: Juliet Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.seventypercent.com/2007/09/ethical-chocolate/#comment-4920</link>
		<dc:creator>Juliet Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, great blog btw. 

I&#039;m a big Lindt fan, and I&#039;m just wondering if you have an opinion on them, and their practices? My correspondence with Lindt makes me think they are okay: http://www.julietbennett.com/2010/08/18/correction-lindt-didnt-lie-we-can-eat-lindt-chocolate-in-peace/

Slave trade is only happening in the Ivory Coast isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, great blog btw. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big Lindt fan, and I&#8217;m just wondering if you have an opinion on them, and their practices? My correspondence with Lindt makes me think they are okay: <a href="http://www.julietbennett.com/2010/08/18/correction-lindt-didnt-lie-we-can-eat-lindt-chocolate-in-peace/" rel="nofollow">http://www.julietbennett.com/2010/08/18/correction-lindt-didnt-lie-we-can-eat-lindt-chocolate-in-peace/</a></p>
<p>Slave trade is only happening in the Ivory Coast isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: jasonbstanding</title>
		<link>http://www.seventypercent.com/2007/09/ethical-chocolate/#comment-2489</link>
		<dc:creator>jasonbstanding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fairly cynically, but probably quite accurately, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timharford.com/favourites/gofigure.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tim Harford points out&lt;/a&gt; that most of the time &quot;Fairtrade&quot; is used more as a means of identifying customers who will pay more for an item if given a reason than people who aren&#039;t that worried and want to save a few pence.  Given that these bars seem to come from the same source suppliers and the rest is just marketing, it seems obvious that this is - yet again - what&#039;s going on.

The Undercover Economist is an excellent read, by the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairly cynically, but probably quite accurately, <a href="http://www.timharford.com/favourites/gofigure.htm" rel="nofollow">Tim Harford points out</a> that most of the time &#8220;Fairtrade&#8221; is used more as a means of identifying customers who will pay more for an item if given a reason than people who aren&#8217;t that worried and want to save a few pence.  Given that these bars seem to come from the same source suppliers and the rest is just marketing, it seems obvious that this is &#8211; yet again &#8211; what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>The Undercover Economist is an excellent read, by the way.</p>
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