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For what it's worth, Demarquette in London now sells Cru Sauvage. So if your interest is in retail quantities you could go to him, or if your interest is in wholesale quantities for business, then you might inquire of him and see if he can steer you in the right direction.

Also for those interested, Demarquette is also producing a ganache chocolate based on it. I like the density and texture: Demarquette is clearly using a higher chocolate ratio than most of the other London chocolatiers, which makes both for a refreshing change and greater chocolate impact. The ganache chocolate itself I thought was very good, although it perhaps lost a little to the basic bar itself; I think that's the result of cream addition to what is from the start a mild flavour. I also sensed that perhaps in a perfect world it might have been ever so slightly fresher. But I emphasize that these are quibbles in what was a superb chocolate overall. Definitely try it.

Alex Rast
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Hi Masur,

The couverture is also available online in the US, though I have only seen the bars in one NYC store.

Best,

Alan

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Cru Sauvage is only available as couverture in Sweden. I buy my bars from a local chocolatier.

"Porcelana: The Holy Grail of Pure Criollos" (Maricel E. Presilla)

The 2007 vinage Sprungli Cru sauvage, 70% Bolivian Criollo, tastes good, a bit similar to the disappeared Pamaco, and close to Amedei generally.

Anyone knows the answer to the lack of info?

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The best prices will be if you buy instead in bulk format, e.g. Chocosphere at $62.50 for 2 kg. (works out to $3.12 for 100g). The bars do, however, have nice visual appeal and might be better tempered (the one I got was almost immaculate), with the additional benefit of a more convenient eating format. The price, however, is certainly as you will have seen much more.

But as for prices compared to "other great bars" I think the problem here is that it's too relative to do that sort of thing. For instance, it could be argued that a limited-edition once-off can command higher prices than a regular stocking item. And a small-volume manufacturer would be within his rights to charge more than a large industrial supplier simply because his fixed costs on a per-unit basis are so much higher. Yes, quality is important and in principle should be the primary price determinant, but it's not quite that simple, and when you get to the upper end of the range then size of the price jump is large while any improvement in quality might be small (or negative).
In the broadest of terms, I tend to think of about a £25/100g upper limit on price, considering all factors, for an arbitrary great chocolate, but on the whole I'd probably expect the "great" chocolate market to average out at about £10/100g.

I think that a rating is a better, although still not absolute, metric of quality overall. Using the SeventyPercent ratings system, an aggregate of 7 or more is what I think of as the dividing line between "quality" and "commodity" chocolate. Above that, a 7.5 is OK but with clear problems, an 8 is good but not great, a level that any reasonable chocolatier should be able to reach consistently, an 8.5 is excellent and with many fine characteristics, an 8.7 or 8.8 is marginally great, undeniably superb but perhaps with hints that it might be improved, and a 9 or above is unqualified great. I'd say *any* chocolate rated 9 or above would in my mind justify any price up to that absolute ceiling of £25, if the conditions were right. So in the case of Cru Sauvage, you can see that my recommendation would be to buy it and not quibble overmuch about the price.

Alex Rast
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In NYC it is about $22 for a 100g bar. It should be significantly less in the EU.

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Hi Deb,

The first bars will be available pretty soon locally (i.e., within 2 or 3 weeks). However, the new Patric Chocolate website with on-line store and the first wave of Patric Chocolate products, including a few single origin bars, and a few other special chocolate-related items, won't be available until autumn, probably around October. I'll be sending out a note to everyone who has signed up on the mailing list once things are available, so if you haven't done so already, signing up on the list will make sure that you won't miss the debut.

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Very Best,

Alan

Best,

Alan

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PS: it had a snap like I have never seen/heard/felt before.