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	<title>aguynamedrobert on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Well I just got a chance to sit down and taste Guittards new 72%Quetzalcoatl.  The taste is ok but I would say it is my least favorite in the E. Guittard line.  The fruity flavors are not there and the flavor is somewhat dull. It is not a horrible bar but definitely not my favorite bar. It's middle of the road.</p>
<p>Robert<br />
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	<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>ChemicalMachine on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I just finished a second (and last, I gave the rest to my sister) tasting of this chocolate.</p>
<p>This time I drank a glass of water before tasting (which cleared my mouth of saliva), and chewed more aggressively.  This resulted in a dry sensation in my mouth during the initial melt, which I attributed to the lack of the adddition of butter.</p>
<p>I perceived the same flavors, but the flatness seemed more pronouned this time.</p>
<p>I asked my sister if she thought it tasted like a s'more, and she thought that it did.  She said that it definately tasted of Graham cracker.  I mention this only because she rarely detects secondary flavors, so the Graham cracker flavor must be quite easily noticeable.</p>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>ChemicalMachine on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I just tried the E. Guittard Quetzalcoatl.  I went in with the expectation that it would be good, as I love all of their single origin bars. I hoped to detect the aromas and flavors which I am familiar with from their origin bars.</p>
<p>The bar is a reddish brown color of intermediate darkness. It is significantly lighter than a bar such as Lindt Excellence 70%. Does this color necessarily indicate that bulk beans are not the predominate component of this chocolate?</p>
<p>The bar smells like something which I associate with lower quality chocolate, but is not unpleasant. Several possible labels for this aroma passed through my mind, such as a dutched chocolate aroma, but ultimately I decided that the bar smelled similar to a bar of Hershey’s.</p>
<p>The bar did not taste as I expected. To me it tastes like a s’more: a combination of marshmallow, graham cracker, and Hershey’s chocolate. Although, as one would suspect it is more chocolaty and less sweet. I also note some very subtle flavors of tea, coffee, and perhaps strawberries. I detect no significant level of acidity in this bar. The flavor profile strikes me as somewhat flat.</p>
<p>Smelling the bar again, I think that smells as it tastes: like a s’more.</p>
<p>The bar is not at all bitter, and the texture is not below average, but ultimately this bar fails to please me. This may be simply due to my biases; I do not want a tasting experience as mundane as eating a s’more when I reach for a bar of fine chocolate. My only objective complaint, is that the bar seems somewhat flat, as I mentioned earlier.</p>
<p>I notice that this bar is priced lower than the origin bars. Is this an indication that Guittard intends for this to be a less premium chocolate? Does it likely use beans which are not among the beans featured in the origin line?</p>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>aguynamedrobert on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>One point was said that it was dissapointing that Guittard didn't make as many high percentage chocolates...their spot is the mid 60's. </p>
<p>I think this is a good point to make when talk about where Guittard sells there chocolate. As we have found out, you can't get Guittard in Europe(or at least it is hard).  Which means they specialize in the American palate and the American palate for fine chocolate is in the mid to high 60's right now...I think our taste buds best find the flavors at that percentage range...I think Europe likes their darker of course. More like the low seventies...</p>
<p>My point is that I think Guittard stays in that 65% spot because that is what Americans go for right now and where our palats are at the moment...</p>
<p>Have a good one,<br />
Robert<br />
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 03:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Alex Rast on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by martinc</i><br />
<br />They seem to be popular in the US, understandably so when costs of importing are taken into account for something like Valrhona. I wouldn't put them in the same class as Valrhona, Cluizel, Amedei, Domori, Pralus, etc.</p>
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<p>My personal opinion is that their quality is, or can be, as good as most of those on that list but no, you can't class them with those companies. The scale of their production is of an altogether different order. I think their chocolates do often have superb flavour but it's a bit disappointing that they don't have higher percentages very much. Their sweet spot is the 65% range. Out of this territory their chocolate tends to get progressively less impressive. </p>
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 I also get the feeling they're a big company doing a marketing trick. They certainly don't appear to have the same artisanal control of bean sources as the companies I mentioned.</p>
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<p>My impression is that they've given a lot of marketing top-spin to what was a strategic decision to move into quality chocolate and deemphasize the commodity business. So in that sense I think they're committed to fine chocolate. In addition I'm guessing that individual members of the senior management may well have some passion for it - but I don't get the impression that it's the kind of unswerving obsessive mission of a company like Cluizel or Amedei. I can hardly imagine they have the same control over bean sources because their volume is far greater.</p>
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More on a par with Lindt I would say.</p>
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<p>Another company which, interestingly, seems to have made a fairly committed foray into better chocolate. Just like Guittard I get the impression that there is a strategic decision being made here. Lindt's quality has improved up and down the line from what I've been able to assess. Let us hope they continue to improve! Still, I don't think Lindt's quality is across the board quite as good as Guittard's, and they don't have as large a stable of "winners".</p>
<p>For those in Europe - yes, as you've discovered, it's impossible to get over here. But although they're very good, I will also say that you're not missing overmuch. There are plenty of other chocolate manufacturers here who fill the void that Guittard would occupy. In other words, there are equally good chocolates to be had in almost every case, and when you consider the costs of importing the value wouldn't be there. They don't have the sort of distinctive, unreplaceable style of, e.g. Pralus or Domori.</p>
<p>Alex Rast<br />
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Eshra on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>It would still be nice to read a reply containing a thorough review of this bar! ;)  I am extremely eager to know how a bar made by Guittard without the addition of cocoa butter tastes like, as they are known for often adding generous amounts of it.</p>
<p>I am, however, wary of Guittard choosing to forgo the use of cocoa butter on a blended bar--I tend to have less trust that a good quality blended bar will be put out by a big company....as the sourcing of the beans can at times be ambiguous.</p>
<p>I would love to taste their Ambanja bar without the additional cocoa butter...</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Martin Christy on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I tried to get some sense out of Guittard in 2004 then 2005, with an interest to review and even possibly stock. They couldn't work out how to either export, or even send samples.</p>
<p>Martin Christy<br />
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>aguynamedrobert on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>The lighting on that picture seems weird because that chocolate is not that dark...I can say that for sure...If you find a way to order some you will see that it is of normal color(not a dutched color as it appears)...</p>
<p>Is there no spot to order Guittard in the UK? </p>
<p>Robert<br />
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	<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>ellie on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>To my knowledge not available in UK. That's why I'm curious to find such different oppinions on it in US. On some picks -<br />
[url="http://www.finedarkchocolate.com/Chocolate/Guittard/Colombian_Varietal.asp"]like here[/url]-looks as black and scary as "chocolate" chips you've get to sprinkle on ice-cream.</p>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>aguynamedrobert on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I have not noticed any inconsistency in their product yet...but they have many different chocolates and they have their regular line and E. Guittard Line.  So could only comment on the chocolate I eat and that is the E. Guittard line. I do not find any inconsistency in that at all. </p>
<p>They do not dutch any chocolate in their E. Guittard Line.  I have heard that they have some in their other line but I have not seen it yet so I can't be for sure. </p>
<p>Are you familiar with their chocolate Ellie? do you like them or no?</p>
<p>Robert<br />
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	<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>ellie on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Would be nice to hear anything factual about company's practice, really.  And if they Dutch themselves or blend some other source Dutched chocolate?</p>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Martin Christy on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Are there problems with inconsistency with Guittard? I have heard a few US chocolatiers switch from them because of this.</p>
<p>Martin Christy<br />
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	<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>aguynamedrobert on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I would have to strongly disagree but that's my opinion...I actually have talked with a lot of the head people in Guittard; Sr. Scientist, Director of sales and marketing, Jesse Guittard, and Gary Guittard. They are very serious about making good chocolate and I enjoy their flavors a great deal. A lot of our artisan chocolatiers in the USA agree with that as well...but again that is my opinion...</p>
<p>You know what I think would be a great thing for the chocolate world...A competition of the best chocolate manufacturers of the world.  Each one as one year to design a new bar. All of them have to be of the same cocoa content but the rest can all be their choice...I would love to see what these companies would come up with...There could be a pannel of Connoisseaurs from around the world to do a blind tasting and choose the winner...</p>
<p>Well I think that would be a great thing...who know's maybe you(Martin) and me could work on that in a couple years from now :)  Just an idea...</p>
<p>Have a good one Martin,<br />
Robert<br />
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	<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Martin Christy on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>They seem to be popular in the US, understandably so when costs of importing are taken into account for something like Valrhona. I wouldn't put them in the same class as Valrhona, Cluizel, Amedei, Domori, Pralus, etc. I also get the feeling they're a big company doing a marketing trick. They certainly don't appear to have the same artisanal control of bean sources as the companies I mentioned.</p>
<p>More on a par with Lindt I would say.</p>
<p>Martin Christy<br />
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	<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>aguynamedrobert on Guittard Quetzalcoatl</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I am actually a fan of Guittard's...I think they have a great product and especially for the American market. I have tried their entire line of E. Guittard along with 2 new prototypes that are coming out soon of theirs...I think their flavors are perfect for the USA. I can't speek for European palates but Guittard is one of the favorites around here(USA)....</p>
<p>What is your favorite company Martin?</p>
<p>Robert<br />
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	<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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