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	<title>alex_h on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>monte,</p>
<p>i agree that we here in europe have better access to some brands. but it takes some searching. i just recently found two shops here in munich. one has a good selection of amedei, the other a very limited selection of domori (only green and puro; at least in the summer time. in september they apparently stock puertomar, etc.). cluizel and valrhona are quite easy to get here. slitti i had to order per mail and marcolini, scharffen berger and co. i had never set my eyes on before finding them here at seventypercent.com.<br />
the rovira i recently bought: that was a temporary stock. and my domori i have to have a friend bring me from berlin until i can get it here.</p>
<p>i am not a fan of ordering by mail though my slitti shipment was excellently packaged and handled.<br />
the shops i found here have air conditioning and keep the products at the right temperature. one closes in august because of the heat and the other just simply won't have any domori, for instance, in the hotter summer months. if they can survive that way i think it's good proof that they are interested in quality, which makes me happy as a customer.</p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2004 12:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Lone Ly on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Proper storage is certainly an issue here. Ordering online is actually a bigger problem if the chocolate isn't properly wrapped. It was all but a relief to learn that the room temperature at the post office was 24C. It is kind of interesting to note that among the shops in my town it is only the Amedei provider who is aware of storage problems. It is quite concerning, but so far I haven't found any damage on the bars I've bought. I guess I would change my shopping habits if this changes to the worse.</p>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 06:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Hans-Peter Rot on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I realize this too; the French and Italian undeniably make excellent chocolate, and I won't dispute that. I also find it interesting as to which chocolates are available in certain regions. For example, you guys in Europe find Amedei and Domori much easier than I do in America. In fact, I can only order these brands online; I can't just walk into a store and buy them like a lot of you. If I saw Amedei in a store, I would buy the whole lot right there, assuming the bars were in proper storage, of course.</p>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 04:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Lone Ly on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>alex h, </p>
<p>My experimental use of chocolate is more due to coincidents than empiricist preferences. When living in Vienna last year I<br />
1) learnt the difference between good and bad chocolate (although I had this silly fascination for Hachez. I've still got a bar of their Cocoa Arrabia (?) with strawberry and pepper just to remind myself to appreciate the Really Good Ones.) Xocolat <a href="http://www.xocolat.at" rel="nofollow">http://www.xocolat.at</a> is a chilled store - quite refreshing during heatwaves I'd say.<br />
2) had my first ultimate hot chocolate experience - at Demel. (Cold drinking chocolate is great too - especially from Demel and Gerstner.)<br />
3) had my most ultimate cake and dessert experiences after years of suffering from a "sweet tooth".  </p>
<p>Quite reasonably I continued making good stuff at home. Since chocolate still is an experience to me, I don't hesitate using expensive bars for experiments. Making only one portion means that only small amounts are spoiled if any.</p>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 03:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Lone Ly on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned by some now, French and Italian brands are the only discussed lately. I agree it's kind of one-sided, but these chocolatiers offers quite an impressive amount of great bars as it is and I find it difficult to keep myself informed as "informed" means engaging some digestive activity in addition to all that reading and writing ... I've also recognised that people seem to be quite true to seventypercent.com's own list of Top 10s. Speaking of that, I wonder why Brussel-based Pierre Marcolini isn't discussed more widely. If included, it means an extension of nationalities.</p>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 03:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>alex_h on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>martin,</p>
<p>slitti adds natural flavor to their chocolate. below the answer i received to my question:</p>
<p>Gentile Signor Slitti,</p>
<p>I just received a shipment of your chocolate from a store here in Germany and have a question. Listed in your ingredients are "natural flavors"; I was wondering what these might be exactly. I would be grateful for any information.</p>
<p>reply was</p>
<p>Natural Flavours = VANILLA FLAVOUR</p>
<p>We remain at your disposal for any question.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
SLITTI CHOCOLATE.</p>
<p>LoneLy, </p>
<p>you seem to be quite experimental in your use of chocolate. impressive! i just eat the bars as they are. call me lazy and unimaginative. </p>
<p>monte,</p>
<p>i agree. italy and france are getting quite a lot of attention here. not unjustly, but maybe a bit one-sided.</p>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2004 12:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>tom finnerty on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Montegrango,</p>
<p>I eat Chocovic Ocumare all the time, it's a very good bar with nice spicy tones and long flavour and also I think it's excellent value.</p>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2004 08:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Hans-Peter Rot on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Since you eat Amedei regularly, do you feel that other chocolates aren't as good when you switch to another brand? Does anyone here eat other bars by brands such as Dagoba or Chocovic? Lately, all I've seen being discussed is Slitti, Domori, Cluizel, and Amedei. I'm not complaining, but I was just wondering.</p>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2004 01:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Lone Ly on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I haven't tried Domori Puro, but I regularly consume Amedei. As an eating chocolate I agree with Martin - the 66% is preferrable.  However, since my local shop have 1kg bars of Toscano Black 70% (approx 20£) and Chuao (approx 28£), I use to buy these two. I find 70% excellent for desserts and hot chocolate (adding chili, vanilla stick, coffeebeans, peppermint etc.) and Chuao for eating and desserts. Chuao is in fact quite versatile. Although I loved Domori's Puertomar and Puertofino (the only I've tried so far), I consider eating Amedei as an adventure of an experience - a fantasy journey in taste. It is simply like eating a complex piece of fine arts!</p>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2004 01:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>alex_h on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>i've just ordered a few slitti bars at a pretty stiff price. i sure as h*ll hope they don't include "flavoring" in their ingredients. that would really p*ss me off. 'scuse my french, but i agree 100% with you, martin: there is no need for a good chocolate to contain anything other than natural ingredients.</p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2004 15:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Martin Christy on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Ooohhh - nasty! I never go near any chocolate with the mystery ingredient 'flavouring' included. It usually means any old chemical substitute you can think of - not a sign of a good chocolate or a serious chocolate maker, so that is disappointing!</p>
<p>There is really no excuse for not listing everything if it is all natural (and that does not include 'natural flavor', which would still be a chemical substitute, just one originated from a natural source, e.g. - a cow.)</p>
<p>I know this will be controversial, but if that applies to all Slitti products then there will be no place for them in the Chocopaedia!</p>
<p>Martin Christy<br />
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	<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>morton peto on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Slitti has the ingredient 'flavouring' as its last ingredient. This is a common euphemism in ingredients lists for a flavour enhancer.</p>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Martin Christy on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I'd be surprised to see any flavour enhancers in any quality chocolate. What Domori mean is they used 'flavor' cocoa beans - mostly criollo, rather than 'bulk' cocoa beans - mostly forestero. Those are industry terms for the top quality beans and the average ones.</p>
<p>What was the ingredient in the Slitti?</p>
<p>Martin Christy<br />
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	<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2003 02:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Martin Christy on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Dean, thanks for your post.</p>
<p>I'm a huge fan of Amedei, also I think a lot of Domori. I think they have slightly different styles of chocolate range, in that Amedei stand more on their blends, whereas Domori really score on the new Château range.</p>
<p>For me the Domori Porcelana just wins over the Amedei because it is a little more chocolatey and less variable. It is a hair's breadth difference though, Domori at 90.25/100, Amedei at 90/100, so you could call them equal.</p>
<p>The 66% Amedei is one of my personal favourite eating bars. It just seems to sit better than the Toscano Black 70%.</p>
<p>The shop prices are a result of the cost of importing on a small scale - I'm sure they will be much lower in Italy! We try to set a fair price that does not put the chocolate out of reach. When I bought my first 50g bar of Amedei Porcelana from Selfridges it cost £7.60! (Fortunately this has now come down to £2.95.) We try not to go to those extremes! If you see a bar priced lower than us elsewhere on the web, let me know and we'll look at it.</p>
<p>Martin Christy<br />
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	<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2003 02:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>morton peto on Has anyone tried...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I was really impressed with the flavours in the Domori Grand Blend No1. To the extent that I wondered if it included flavour enhancer (that ingredient item 'flavour cocoa mass' is perhaps a 'disguise' I was thinking??). I don't know what members think about flavour enhancers in chocolate. I know I have seen it as an ingredient in Slitti chocolate.</p>
<p>If I was sure that Grand Blend did not contain a flavour enhancer and if it was widely available it would be my 'default' bar without a doubt.</p>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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