Seventy% - Topic: domori hacienda san jose

Hans-Peter Rot on domori hacienda san jose

Thu, 09 Jun 2005 23:32:24 +0000

I just had my first sampling of the Ocumare 67 70% and 100% (regrettably, no 60% or 80%) in a side-by-side. The aroma for the 100% is so different than the 70%, it's almost as if I were smelling a different chocolate. The 100% was much more tart and slightly fruity, whereas the 70% was more robust with a heavier emphasis on mushrooms and dates. Flavor-wise, I think the 70% beats the 100% hands down for several reasons. First of all, the 70% has a lovely buttery tone (indicator of fine Criollos) with a distinct papaya and dry grass flavor. It wasn't fruity sweet, but more along the lines of caramelized sweet. The sugar tremendously aided in bringing out and enhancing these flavors. The 100% shared these flavors as well, but dates were extremely pronounced towards the end, and the hay flavor was practically absent. Furthermore, it was quite bitter and astringent throughout the length, and thus some of the more delicate flavors were muddled and subdued. It just seemed more harsh to my palate; the lack of that 30% addition of sugar transformed the gentle nature of the flavors into a harsher and more intense profile that didn't quite match its nature. I for one love 100% chocolate, but I'm not quite certain that Ocumare 67 is the best candidate for this type. More tasting is required, though, as this is only my initial impressions.

Hans-Peter Rot on domori hacienda san jose

Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:34:43 +0000

You guys are lucky because a box here costs $100 (74 Euro and £51). Quite a difference, huh?

alex_h on domori hacienda san jose

Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:10:29 +0000

oh, i didn't see you were using pounds. but less than 65 euros is still a good deal. better than what i paid.

Masur on domori hacienda san jose

Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:23:01 +0000

Less than £45 Alex means less than 65 euro. I actually payed less than 60 euro for the box. 45 euro is too cheep and could only happended in dreams. Good luck in Italy.

"Porcelana: The Holy Grail of Pure Criollos" (Maricel E. Presilla)

alex_h on domori hacienda san jose

Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:44:10 +0000

shame on you, masur! ;-)
damn! less than 45 euros?! wow! at that price i would have bought all three boxes. i am heading to italy next week. maybe i'll get lucky too.

thanks, hadi. in the meantime i've been able to get my hands on some. it's all been devoured unfortunately ;-)

Masur on domori hacienda san jose

Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:50:03 +0000

I bought ocumare 67 last weekend in Sweden and payed less than £45.

"Porcelana: The Holy Grail of Pure Criollos" (Maricel E. Presilla)

hadi on domori hacienda san jose

Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:46:00 +0000

Here is help at last:
http://www.chocosphere.com/Html/Products/domori.html#sanjose
Enjoy !
hadi

quote]Originally posted by alex_h

does anyone know how much these crates cost and whether they are commercially available yet?!

domori's site is a bit cryptic and they've only got a dinky photo.
are there only three different varieties (ocumare 61, 67 and canoabo)?

need to get my hands on some of this!

martin and lone, i know u know something ;-)

help!

<<ce qui fait du bien au palais ne fait du mal à l'âme>>
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alex_h on domori hacienda san jose

Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:31:47 +0000

has anyone tried the canoabo? is it recommendable? i am thinking of buying a box...

alex_h on domori hacienda san jose

Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:40:41 +0000

:-) i've now tried three of the four bars in the crate. but no, haven't watched the dvd yet, since i don't even have a tv (had to sell it to pay for the san jose ;-)
will tell more after watching it. the pamphlet was mildly interesting and contained a curious statement that the criollos used at san jose are very low in polyphenols. surprised me.

no, lone, i haven't gotten it yet :-(
just got a package from in't veld with the pralus pyramid i ordered last week though.

i wouldn't feel good about burning the dvd and sending it around. copyright u know.

btw, the 100% didn't (yet) impress me much. usually 100% is my "breakfast bar", to wake me up instead of coffee. maybe my tongue was a bit off this morning from celebrating all weekend :-)
but the chocolate tasted much of cheese, reminiscent of domori's 75g 100%.

i liked the 60 and 80 very much. the 60 is very, very subtle though, but the nibs are the finest i've had in a chocolate.
the 80 (with salt and fructose) is extremely fine and the flavor flows strongly, accentuated by the salt, which is a subtle component that you almost don't notice (certainly not negatively).

more to follow. i imagine i don't have to say much about the 70, since it is or should be puertofino.

Lone Ly on domori hacienda san jose

Mon, 22 Nov 2004 06:41:42 +0000

J... Alex - haven't my parcel arrived yet???

You reminded me on something there, Monte. I forgot to send legodude and Alex a note about the DVD, but I presume the DVD is the same for Ocumare 67 and Ocumare 61 - or? I haven't watched it yet. Would be happy to send copies around, but can't find anyone with a DVD recorder ...

Chocolate is cheaper than therapy and you don't need an appointment.

Hans-Peter Rot on domori hacienda san jose

Mon, 22 Nov 2004 04:06:45 +0000

Have you watched the DVD yet? I'm real jealous of you now hehe.

alex_h on domori hacienda san jose

Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:19:10 +0000

back to san jose: i finally got a box! ocumare 67. haven't tried it yet, but looks really nice.

Hans-Peter Rot on domori hacienda san jose

Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:42:28 +0000

I wish Amedei would produce the iCru squares as regular size bars. That way, we could enjoy our favorites and not worry about either not having enough of our favorite or having too much of our least favorite. Besides, the squares are an extremely impractical way to enjoy chocolate, imo, but that's a matter addressed in another thread.

alex_h on domori hacienda san jose

Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:38:41 +0000

i can taste a difference in the crus, but would not be able to tell you which is which without the labels.
common factor in amedei though, as you have mentioned, is the characteristic taste of raisins and, for me, tobacco.
i cannot tell you what porcelana is, since what i have experienced in domori is something very different from amedei. how do they do that?!

Polarbear on domori hacienda san jose

Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:34:51 +0000

quote:

Originally posted by LoneLy
Polar, are you saying that you won't be able to separate for example Trinidad and Grenada from tasting?

Yes, but it could just be me who haven't eaten enough of them...[;)] May be my taste is just not that developed yet.

quote:

Originally posted by LoneLy
I also agree that Marcolini's porcelana is very different - in fact, to me it is not like a Porcelana at all. Or ... if I do my very best, I think there is a hint there of the common flavours in Domori and Amedei's Porcelanas.

Havn't tried anything Domori, so I cannot say where it stands.

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