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Dazeal
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I am working on becoming a chocolate coinsurer and am ordering chocolate bars for my retail shop. I was hoping to get some advice from any of you who want to give it.

These are the bars I was hoping to sell:

Bonnat, Café-Tasse, Castelain, Dolfin and Nirvana are the chocolates I am thinking about carrying. I want to spend about $1000 and want to sell these at my high end florist. I am going to order certain bars from each maker that has a good rating here, not their whole line.

Amedei, Domori, Pralus and Cluizel are not sold at wholesale prices, unless you buy $1000s at a time and Chocoshpere's wholesale prices are way too high for these bars, for me to resale. I contacted all the above businesses and said they were not ready to sell wholesale.

Dagoba, Scharffen Berger, and Valrona are all over saturated in my area. (Dagoba is made 3 miles from me)

Any suggestions or guides? I really enjoy reading your forum and have already learned a lot. Thanks to the admins for your passion and your resource.

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I'm not familiar with Nirvana bot none of Bonnat, Café-Tasse, Castelain and Dolfin is a top brand. I think you need a top brand like Amedei, Domori, Cluizel or Valrhona. I'm not an expert and it depends on your customers. They might leave you in their search for better chocolate. Even if nine out of ten bars requested is a bar of the brands you mentioned you might loose a customer. A limited selection of the best Valrhona bars might do it.

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Masur, why Bonnat not good enough? Seems to have quite high % distinctive bars - well, not all very well made, but Puerto cabelo and Hasienda El Rosario I do enjoy. Tell what you think, please.

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As I already said in my post above Masur, Amedei, Domori and Cluizel contacted me letting me know they are too small to get into the wholesale business. I can buy these bars on chocosphere for $5.50 a bar wholesale, but that is way too much for me to turn around and sell at retail value. Valrhona and their US rep will not return my emails to buy wholesale for my shop.

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Puerto Cabelo and Chuao from Bonnat are two of my "every day" chocolate favourites so it's a good choice. At a shop in Stockholm where they sell tea you can find chocolate from Bonnat together with Café-Tasse, Dolfin and Venchi. Have you considered to add Venchi to your list?

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el rey (www.chocolates-elrey.com) has good bars that're not overly expensive. and you can probably get them easily in the states. they have a nice selection of single-bean bars ranging from white to 73%.

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73,5% that is, Alex, but who is picking?[:p]

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Thank you very much Alex for your help.

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you're welcome, brandon.
another option would be to buy a full case of one kind of domori at chocosphere.com and see how it sells. if it doesn't go you can always eat it yourself 😉
or buy some of domori's cru. they're small enough that people will say "ah, what the heck, i'll buy one and see how it is." then you've got them hooked. you can also tie these in with your flowers as a goodie and get people interested that way too. no knowing where that might lead...

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Amedei, Domori, Pralus, Bonnat, Cluizel, et al certainly are available in the US on a wholesale basis, and minimum orders (in my experience) are generally in the $200 range, which isn't hard to meet when you're buying those brands.

Poke around online and you'll find the distributors easily enough, but here's one freebie: retail Cluizel bars are distributed in the US by their American arm, Noble Ingredients in New Jersey.

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valrhona is offered by many distributors--in my area, i use peters imports and european imports, both based in northern illinois. one or the other also offers wholesale el rey as well as some other brands. check with distributors in your area for a better deal on freight.

despite some of the reviews here, castelain is a very nice chocolate and did very well at a blind tasting of premium chocolates at my store. you get get wholesale info from crossings.

i've had no luck whatsoever locating a wholesale source for domori or amedei--i thought i had, but the company stopped carrying these brands. sorry.

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Hola Ellie:

I her am thinking about being able to help a bit in his worries it brings over of chocolate. I am A Chemical Engineer and have specialized myself in the topic of cocoa, am Chilean and take root in Peru for 10 years. I go more of 25 years in the topic and know a bit about this.
Sorry my english is not good, but we can understand.

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