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September 17, 2004
11:49 am
Lone Ly
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Alex, my point is that Amedei and Domori are not really comparable because it is like I am eating Domori and consuming Amedei. The difference for me has little to do with bitterness. ‘Swirling complexity’ is an excellent description of Amedei’s Porcelana btw :-) and for me that is the paramount difference as Domori is more like implosion or integration – and as you say, much lighter on the tongue.

“Man cannot live by chocolate alone – but woman can.” (Unknown)

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September 17, 2004
12:26 pm
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exactly, i wouldn’t compare the tastes of the two either. entirely different concept.
yet i still taste more bitter in amedei. but i will go and buy some more today or tomorrow and tell you what i think afterwards.

September 17, 2004
6:41 pm
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I don’t receive commission on the sale btw ;-)

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September 18, 2004
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I love Amedei’s Chuao. It’s definitely one of the best chocolates I’ve ever eaten. The red fruit tones and the surprisingly intense chocolate flavor are absolutely to die for. Do you favor Amedei’s Porcelana over their Chuao, LoneLy? I need to do a side-by-side taste test with Amedei’s and Domori’s Porcelana, so I can notice the differences better, but after trying both, I favor Domori’s. Mainly because the flavors are much more interesting, and there’s an out-of-place flavor in Amedei’s that offsets the strawberry/cream flavors. Next time you try it, see if you can find some kind of contrast.

September 19, 2004
12:21 am
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Alex, btw, the Domori Madagascar is one of my favorites I think. I was totally blown away by it for some reason. I tasted a little cinnamon, then BAM!, rum stormed in and took me by surprise. It was quite a tangy and zippy flavor; quite a lively and colofrul chocolate. It has tangy notes of slightly fermented and tangy pineapple too, which pair so well with the rum. It’s sooooo different than Ampamakia, which is very tame compared to Domori’s Madagascar. Indeed, I’m not THAT big of a fan of Ampamakia; it has a lovely mild rum flavor with notes of sweet orange and perhaps peach. Very smooth and cool character. It’s not too exciting or interesting, but it’s still a very enjoyable chocolate, nonetheless. Well, anyway, Domori’s Madagascar is so voluptuous; it’s a journey into chocolate nirvana for me, as are most other Domori bars, actually, but this one in particular really captivates me. Stunning. I don’t know if I tasted pepper, but I definitely detected it in the aroma, though, along with other spices and woods. Imo, the best aroma (among Domori bars) belongs to Carupano, which is divine.

September 21, 2004
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Just had another go at Domori’s 100% (75g), and I can’t say I was too impressed with it. Bananas and hazelnuts emerged first with a cinnamon tone, then other tropical fruits such as mango were present later in the melt. I tasted a puckery cherry at the end, though, which was probably the only highlight of the bar. It reminded me a bit of Slitti’s 100% (although without a burnt taste and a little more bitter). The first time I tried it, it had this biting bitterness, but in later tastings, it wasn’t so potent. I don’t know what the deal is. Tomorrow I will have another go with the remaining 30g.

October 15, 2004
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hello folks,
finally had a chance to visit a good shop in berlin (in’t veld) and catch up on most of the domori products i hadn’t tried before. and i had the opportunity of finally meeting someone from the forum: our own hot chocolate expert, lonely (shall i call you by your proper name?).
thanks to lone, i was indirectly able to try some of the chocolates available at the chocolate week. many thanks!
and, martin, i had a nice piece of your rio caribe! initially not my taste, but by the third try i was impressed. very very intense.
can i get my hands on more without buying the new hamper?

some of the stuff i tried in berlin:
domori’s crus, carupano and their organic 70% called absolute. now i know why it is so hard to find out more about it: it is made under the name of a company called chacao (www.chacao.com).
i also got my hands on my first scharffenberger (70%).
and thanks to lone i had my first try of marcolini. and of course seventypercent.com’s own rio caribe.
i guess you could say i am a happy man :)

impressions vary. must say none of the domori i tried actually knocked me over. except seventpercent’s rio caribe.
scharffenberger was an ok chocolate and marcolini was nice but not wildly so. what i had from marcolini was their fleur de cacao and their limited edition porcelana. and what i can say about them is that you really can’t tell their percentage. i was surprised that fleur de cacao actually has 85%. but for me a bar has to have more than just a high percentage that seems much lower, though i can’t find any real fault with fleur de cacao. the porcelana was nice and almost a bit to sweet for me. what i like about marcolini is the grainy sandiness.
i heard that there was discussion whether marcolini actually uses porcelana in the porcelana. i am not the porcelana expert however.

oh! i completely forgot! the chocolate i actually liked most?! yeah, it was a milk bar from anne’s shop. a 40% bar with tonka beans. wow! really nice, anne. talk about flavor.
i also tried artisan’s house blend which i immediately overate. liked the smell a lot and the taste… until i overdid it ;)
have found no real competition for my faves yet though.
and these remain domori>

puertofino and
peurtomar

i had my hands on the san jose boxes but they were just too expensive at 60 euros a box. i guess i will have to wait for riches…

October 15, 2004
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Wow, it is that easy to make you happy, alex ;-) I have a San Jose offer for you btw. (Prefer to be incognito at the forum, yes.)

Me liked Rio Caribe a lot too. And my Tonca Bean bar was gone in five minutes. Bought some stuff in Berlin myself, lots of chili chocolates. However, I am still confused after my last visit at In’t Veld and cannot really tell the difference between all the different goods I have tried.

It’s not that chocolates are a substitute for love. Love is a substitute for chocolate. Chocolate is, let’s face it, far more reliable than a man.
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October 15, 2004
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ok, incognito u r :)
what is the offer? i am very very very interested! (i will send u the email address i am using while traveling)

i had kinda the same problem after visiting in’t veld. i couldn’t really discern the difference between all the different bars that well. but then again i was just looking to find a new fave :)

October 15, 2004
8:55 pm
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May be there’s a particular In’t Veld syndrome we both suffer from? It is just a too nice shop I think. Overwhealming is probably the word.

It’s not that chocolates are a substitute for love. Love is a substitute for chocolate. Chocolate is, let’s face it, far more reliable than a man.
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October 18, 2004
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i’m new here!!! i love chocolat with fillings!!! Any recommendations? [;)]

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October 20, 2004
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hmmm, well. there’s zotter from austria (i think http://www.zotter.at or .com). but don’t know whether that’s readily available in singapore.
what might be more available to you are truffles and pralines from australia (i think it is called australian chocolate or something similar, could check if u r interested…).

cheers,
a

October 25, 2004
4:29 am
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Chezcake – expensive but d*** good: Pralines and truffles from Amedei, Italian brand, and from Pierre Marcolini (Belgian, also available in UK).

It’s not that chocolates are a substitute for love. Love is a substitute for chocolate. Chocolate is, let’s face it, far more reliable than a man.
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November 13, 2004
9:42 am
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current tops on my list>

1. puertomar – domori
2. puertofino – domori
3. porcelana – domori
4. chuao – amedei

November 13, 2004
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It’s hard to come up with a list, but in no particular order, my current favorites are:

Domori – Porcelana; Puertofino; Madagascar
Cluizel – Los Ancones
Amedei – Chuao
Valrhona – Gran Couva 2003

November 13, 2004
3:13 pm
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I can try to rank the ones that i like for the moment.

1. Domori – Puertomar
2. Michel Cluizel – Maralumi
3. Scharffen Berger 70%
4. The Chocolate Society Organic 67%
5. Seventypercent.com Rio Caribe 70%

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November 13, 2004
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ohmigod! i have to change my list! i have just experienced some heavy sh….. (‘scuse me please)!
four words: bonnat and one hundred percent!
i can’t find the right words right now so a clearer description must wait. but damn! just downtown doing my chocolate rounds when what do i see?! they have got the red bar in one shop.
they give me a piece to try and i am immediately blown away! no, and i mean no bitterness! (i am aware that i am using many exclamation marks in this text). and smooth and tasty and and….. sweet???
that confused me. thought they might have given me the wrong chocolate, so i bought a bar and just tried it again. but nope, no confusion. could easily be a 70% bar. nice flavor. description will follow later.
if u can get your hands on some: do it! don’t fret, i’d give it to my granny without a worry.
this is some serious chocolate. unless something went wrong in packaging. but this i like much much better than the regular 75s bonnat makes. much!

in addition i bought all three of domori’s organics (new here in munich), chocovic trinitario and something from the austrian crazies at zotter. the latter is less a chocolate bar than a kind of truffle. the ingredients (now get this): coffee, plum, nougat, and bacon! strange these austrians (no offense). just eating some now. tastes good. they know the right doses i guess ;-)

well, i am off to have a chocolate orgy. catch you guys in a little while. ;-) ))))

November 18, 2004
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Alex, you are now required to send me all the Domori Chacao bars you can afford [:D] They’re currently unavailable here in the US due to FDA issues regarding the organic certification of the ingredients, but these will be resolved soon.

November 18, 2004
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natch! just got through them yesterday ;-)
i like the 90% best because the crystals give a nice texture. like when a cat licks your finger.
in the end the money i paid for a bar here in munich (4.90 euro in munich, 2.70 in berlin) is just not worth it though. 2.70 would be fair.

November 18, 2004
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Alex, is the Bonnat 100% available in Berlin you think?

Chocolate is cheaper than therapy and you don’t need an appointment.

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