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12:51 pm
October 11, 2004
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keith hurdman
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Could someone pease confirm or deny the rumour……..vicious or otherwise, that Green & Blacks belongs to Cadburys and if so since when?
I am at the moment in the process of sourcing a quality ‘ethical’ chocolate supply (big time)for my revered employer.
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10:08 am
October 12, 2004
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choca
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Yes they do .
Cadburys took a 5 % stake almost 3 years ago now , with an option to buy the rest . They have increased their holding over time and now control at least 35 % , and I have heard rumours that this is over 50%.
The MD of Green and Blacks has also been interviewed in a number of magazines , of particular note are articles in some organic magazines and the journal for the institute of Directors . These go into the cadbury links in detail and has Green & Blacks saying they are very happy at being part of the cadburys family and it is good for the company .
Their MD also says that he sees no need to make any more of their products fairtrade ,( curruntly 2 lines ) because most people think all their products are .
If you wish to buy fairtrade and organic chocoate in the uk it can be hard to get . Callebaut and belcolade do one or the other , but not together , i might be able to give some pointers though .
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1:53 pm
October 12, 2004
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Polarbear
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quote:
Originally posted by chocaTheir MD also says that he sees no need to make any more of their products fairtrade ,( curruntly 2 lines ) because most people think all their products are .
So much for illusions about idealism….[}:)]
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10:02 am
October 13, 2004
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keith hurdman
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……….Thanks choca. any pointers much appreciated.
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1:50 pm
October 13, 2004
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legodude
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If you want to buy more ethical, you should buy marks like Domori, Amedei and Piere Marcolini. They have a closer relationship with the people who grow the cacao. Instead of buying beans at “marketprice” on the cacaomarket, they try to find the best cacao and pay a better price directly to the growers.
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“I`ve got lots of friends in San José. Do you know the way to San José?”
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5:58 pm
October 13, 2004
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chocolatero
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Yes and no, in most country these people will have to buy from
cooperatives or local merchants, not directly from the plantation!
SO it is certainly fairer trade but that would apply to many other smaller ma ufactueres who also buy from cooperatives or merchants e.g. valrhona, cluizel and many others who may have better products and better value for money ones.
There is an interesting chocolate at FM called Claudio Carollo made by pralus. thsi is the example of a great collaboration between planter, manufact and buyer.
Otherwise, I would recommend (evn though I have not tried it and a competitor sells it…) the grenada chocolate company as the growers also manufacture locally! So bound to be fair trade. you can find some of their bars at Rococo
hope this helps
Chocolatero
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7:38 pm
October 13, 2004
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Martin Christy
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You can also get the Grenada bars from this site – they brought a load over when they came to Chocolate Week – the very last made before the hurricane struck! They do seem to be the perfect model of organic and fairtrade, one of the few places in the world where high value chocolate is made at source.
Choca, do you have any sources / references for the info about Green & Black’s? The most recent info I can find is here http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DQA/is_2002_July_18/ai_89576862 and here http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/Story/0,2763,1189364,00.html – where the 5% is mentioned.
Martin Christy
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9:52 pm
October 13, 2004
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legodude
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Acording to Martin, the Grenada Chocolate Factory also uses solar power to power their production! Now that is what I call idealists! Thumbs up for Grenada! Could be interesting if there where more chocolate factorys based in the countrys that grow the cacao. In that case more money go back to the people, and there is more money in selling a product than the raw materials.
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“I`ve got lots of friends in San José. Do you know the way to San José?”
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12:11 am
October 14, 2004
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Even better, Grenada’s 71% is really good, it is on my current top 5 list, both for eating and for hot chocolate.
It’s not that chocolates are a substitute for love. Love is a substitute for chocolate. Chocolate is, let’s face it, far more reliable than a man.
Miranda Ingram
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“Man cannot live by chocolate alone – but woman can.” (Unknown)
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