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3:56 pm
November 19, 2004
OfflineJust tried the Chacao Absolute (70%) and all I can say is WOW, what a difference a little sugar makes! This is fantastic chocolate – coffee, red fruit, plums – delicious! It’s really amazing to see how little bitterness a 70% can have. I am now very excited to try the 90% with sugar crystals and see what others think of it as well – Monte, will there be a review in the near future?
5:03 pm
August 1, 2006
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December 12, 2005
OfflineLast time I met a Lindt Excellence 99% there were demerara sugar crystals listed among the ingredients as well as cocoa powder besides cocoa mass. This made me think about whether it can be regarded as unadulterated chocolate. However it was correct, flat and sometimes feeling overroasted but ok.
4:12 pm
August 1, 2006
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December 12, 2005
OfflineOn the back side of the packaging…Well here in Hungary you can get the Lindt Excellence line in all shops, even in large ones. I think that one came from a Tesco. Yesterday, just to check it out, I jumped to the usual local food store and bought a 85% also because I was excited about the reviews read here and wanted to recheck it (last time I tasted it a year ago but was not very fond of, as the texture was like eating flour). They did not have 99% and as I remember the 99%’s ingredient list was different, but the 85% is made up of: cocoa paste, defatted cocoa powder (I wonder whether it is dutched or not!), cocoa butter, demerara sugar, and vanilla. Even if we consider the use of cocoa powder forgiveable in in making a chocolate bar, the use of simple demerara sugar is also questionable, as it can alter the taste. That’s why Amedei and others use refined cane sugar to avoid possible taste fingerprints of unrefined sugar. But back to the ’99% there were crystals as I remember, and the cocoa powder is sure.
Am I too much of a purist?
Forgot to tell that checked CuoreNero: this is a bluff of an artificial sweetener maker company to sell more. All the bars I have seen are made with 100% cocoa paste and the well known tripeptide: NutraSweet, some containing also other sweeteners. Do they put it into the 101th percent?
4:40 pm
August 1, 2006
OfflineInteresting. The ingredients list on the 85% is totally different here. It’s like you’re tasting an entirely different chocolate in Hungary. Anyway, when you check the review for the ingredients of the bar I tasted, you can clearly see that just about every component is different and so your bar will be dramatically different from mine.
Cocoa powder is an acceptable ingredient in chocolate (or it is at least imo) since it is still a cocoa solid and nothing that would impose any “unnatural” flavors to the chocolate. As I commented on previously, the use of unrefined sugars (such as Demerara) will unfavorably affect flavor and I tend to look down on the use of brown sugars. However, I also believe that if you’re seeking to produce a round and consistent flavor, with total disregard to the chocolate’s inherent flavor integrity, then brown sugars do have major value since they can enhance and hide flavors that a manufacturer may or may not want to show up in the chocolate’s final flavor. But of course, since we’re concerned about the “true” taste of the bean, the use of brown sugars is not dismissible.
5:41 pm
August 1, 2006
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March 17, 2005
OfflineAt last something becomes clearer. It must be some regional difference in 85% Lindt formula, and not a major difference in our palates! Lindt here, in UK has that additional “fat reduced cocoa powder and demerara sugar among the ingredients, so taste we keep complaining about here, may not reach you at all, Monte. And 99% Lindt here lists demerara sugar as well.
9:59 pm
August 1, 2006
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December 12, 2005
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August 1, 2006
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December 12, 2005
OfflineEllie wrote about the 85%. Its composition is the same in Europe but different in the US. I wrote now about the 70% that is different from both the 99% and the 85%. The 85% contains cocoa powder that is not there in the 70%.
Back to the 100s-what is your opinion about Rovira, and what do you know about the cocoa he uses for the bars? I know that he uses Sao Tomé single plantation cocoa only for his 2 showboxes, KKO and Making Off Cocoa. I liked his 100s a lot, although Slitti 100 remains my favourite.
11:53 pm
August 1, 2006
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