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Valrhona Porcelana del Pedregal
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October 28, 2004 - 8:40 pm
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Valrhona has presented a new chocolate at Lafayette Gourmet in Paris. Porcelana del Pedregal with 69% cacao from the plantation Pedregal in Venezuela. It will be presented next week in London at Harrods and Fortnum & Mason. It will be available in Sweden in December.

"Porcelana: The Holy Grail of Pure Criollos" (Marieel E. Presilla)

"Porcelana: The Holy Grail of Pure Criollos" (Maricel E. Presilla)
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October 29, 2004 - 9:06 am
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I have not heard anything about the taste but plenty about the price!!!!!

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October 29, 2004 - 9:45 am
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wow! sounds interesting. any more info?

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October 29, 2004 - 3:25 pm
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A picture:
[url]http://www.simonssons.se/images/pedregal.jpg[/url]

More information in French:
[url]http://www.lefigaro.fr/adv-cuisine-vins/20041026.FIG0213.html[/url]

"Porcelana: The Holy Grail of Pure Criollos" (Marieel E. Presilla)

"Porcelana: The Holy Grail of Pure Criollos" (Maricel E. Presilla)
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I phoned Fortnums on Friday to reserve a bar, but the chocolate department hadn't heard of it! Will try again, and also Harrods.

How much is it? Anyone know?

Elektra

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It's actually not a bar - this is the English version description from Valrhona

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3 flowers made with chocolate weighting 114g each in a case ; a leaflet presents in detail what is Porcelana del Pedregal.


The price - not sure exactly yet, but I think it will be around £40 for each case! We may have some next week ...

Here's an image - [url]/images/forum/valrhona_porcelana.jpg[/url]

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OK, they just arrived. The boxes, I have to say, are beautiful and look like they justify the price as a gift. I haven't dared open one yet!

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Just had my first sample. They've made it with brown sugar, which is noticable. Aroma is very chocolatey and the overwhelming sensation is butter, with low acidity (for Valrhona). It's good, but I'm in no way knocked out - there's no 'wow' factor like I've had with Amedei and Domori, maybe I'm becoming jaded!

Reminds me of another chocolate I can't quite pin down this early in the morning.

Very eatable, and as I write this the length is good, but no distinctive notes yet.

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do you think the price is justified? 342g for 40 pounds? and while i'm asking: do you think the price for domori's san jose is justified?
if i pay 60 euros for 500g of domori i am getting the chocolate at a price i usually pay for domori. but, i think paying 40 pounds (approx. 60 euros) for a lot less of valrhona is a stretch.

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Well it's about the same price as Amedei Porcelana (in the UK anyway). I think the Domori is good value for what you're getting, compared to the individual Chateau bars (about £2 per 25g, rather than £2.75 per 25g). That's if you want that much of it in one go!

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I guess I have to call the Norwegian importer to check if they got it, and the price. If its good, well then I must try it. Are there three pentagons like on the picture?

I`ve got lots of friends in San José.

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November 5, 2004 - 2:11 pm
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Yes, three of those ... wow, I've just been eating Grenada Chocolate 71% - also buttery ... mmmmmmmmmm - curious

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legoman, you mean you have friends working at the hacienda san jose?! or do they live close by? or do you mean a different san jose?

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So Valrhona's Porcelana is 40 pounds for 342g (which I think is $75)? Wow. Well, if the quality justifies the price, then I certainly have no qualms about it, but still...wow. Also, alex, you pay 60 euro for a San Jose box??? That's about $80, and each one costs $100 here, so you come out ahead. The only good thing about such high prices is that they deter merely curious people which thus allows us, the connoisseurs, to buy them.

Martin, what are the flavors of Valrhona's Porcelana? I know you said it's not as good as Amedei's or Domori's, but where does it fail to impress you? And, is that a little booklet in the picture?

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It seems kind of perfect, without flaws - a perfect chocolate flavour, but no evolution, no surprises, no notes. Well worth trying, but we just sampled it back to back with a Domori Porcelana bar, which I must say made me smile a lot more - full of little surprises.

If you like pure chocolate flavour, it's great. If like me it's the notes and changes that interest you, then it's not such a winner.

We just got the new Valrhona Palmira in and tried some (I'd already had some curtesy of masur in Chocolate Week), and I prefer the interest in this to the porcelana.

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Alex, meiner freund aus Deutchland, it was supposed to be a signature line after the post message. Like LoneLy and Masur and other folks have. I forgot to put it between ""s. Let`s see if it works better now. It is a line from a song by Dionne Warwick.

"I`ve got lots of friends in San José. Do you know the way to San José?"

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:-)
ach so, lego, i see said the blind man. i thought u might have some good connections to heaven 😉

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November 7, 2004 - 3:00 pm
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Well Alex, as the Monkeys said; I am a believer. And that goes for both San José and other heavens..

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you mean the monkees, right?
really going off-subject here now 😉

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November 9, 2004 - 6:44 pm
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who can do the walk?

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