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Meeting of intellectuals - discussing Domori etc
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Polarbear
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Legodude visited Tromsø on Saturday, so we met at a cafe and tried some bars. And here is the conclusions of the north&west-Norwegian jury:

Domori: First time I tried Domori. Legodude loves it. Personally I think the taste of blue cheese, salami and red meat is way to dominant. Chocolate should, after all, taste chocolate!

Marcolini Porcelana: Very strong, complex, liqorice, ginger, some fruits and spice. Better now than I remembered it.

El Rey: Gritty, need to chew and melt to let the taste spread - but then it's really good and fruity. An initial taste of...heck, what's the English word for the fur that grows on old cheese? [:D] - stain? -is somewhat annoying.

We agreed that the Porcelana craze may be overhyped - Porcelanas are great, yes, but not greater than other beans, and just as different.

I also note that the differences between the manufacturers is way larger than the difference between the beans. Domori has its cheese taste, Valrhona used to be verys acidic and fuity and is now nutty, Amedei tastes raisin whatever beans they use, Cluizel has the aroma of banana and smoke.

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you guys! 😀 *lol*

i think you might have grabbed a sandwich by accident instead of a domori bar 😀
and the 'fur' on cheese *rofl* i'd call it mold 😉
sounds like you two had a good time.
when it comes to domori i must agree in a way. there is often an initial musty taste that goes in the direction of something old, maybe meaty.
and amedei? yes, it all tastes like raisins!
i can just imagine two norwegians sitting in a cafe, drinking vodka and eating chocolate 😀
sounds fun! i wanna join in!´

porcelana may be overrated taste-wise, but i have recently taken a liking to domori's version. but, bear in mind it is apparently the purest of criollos. that's one of the main reasons it's so special i gather.

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February 7, 2005 - 12:52 pm
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Originally posted by alex_h

i can just imagine two norwegians sitting in a cafe, drinking vodka and eating chocolate 😀
sounds fun! i wanna join in!´



Vodka?? Except from that vodka tastes like a dentist office or chemistry lab, and would ruin the choc taste - who can afford to drink it with our alcohol prices? [;)]

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February 7, 2005 - 12:56 pm
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true, i was just using some tired cliché.

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February 7, 2005 - 1:29 pm
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It's not NOrwegians who drink vodka...Real Norwegians (I mean the Really Real, not the people on the airline tails) drink "homemade"...because of the vodka prices...[8D]

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February 7, 2005 - 2:11 pm
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airline tails?
should we move to the off-topic?

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quote:


Originally posted by alex_h

airline tails?
should we move to the off-topic?



See http://www.norwegian.no - our own, little low fare airline. [:)] Ok, back to topic: Alex, I have the impression that Domori is ThE Chocolate for you - while I wasn't that fond of it. Could it be that you love what I like in the choc - the "cheese" taste?
I noticed that Domori doesn't use vanilla, as the taste was somewhat rough, but I am not sure I would be able to do a blind test with and without vanilla.

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ah, now i see. they don't have your picture on an airplane tail yet?! 😉
yes, domori is what i prefer. but it's not just the product, it's the philosophy behind it. maybe they're just good marketers and i'm a fool, but for now domori is my no.1 and only (almost).
i don't particularly care for the cheese taste either. i can't really put my finger on what i like so much about domori, but the waxy texture has much to do with it. sometimes i buy bars where the taste is not great at all. maybe this is the case with the bar you two tried. these are the domori inconsistencies marioh mentioned.

some reasons why i love domori:
- the care that goes into all of the processes
- they make chocolate from bean to bar
- they don't use vanilla or lecithin
- they almost exclusively stay above 70%
- they have a good variety of varietal bars
- they are italian :-)
- their best products don't have any added cocoa butter
- they are interested in biodiversity and the origins of good criollo
- the bars are not bitter in the least (unless you go up to 100%)
- the bars are smooth

ok, i'll stop there.

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Beyond taste, I love the texture. It's quite pasty and adds an interesting character to the chocolate. I don't necessarily taste cheese, per se, in Domori, but I do detect some dairy tones, such as buttermilk in Puertomar, butter in Porcelana, and bleu cheese, actually, in Puro. Domori's bars offer a wide range of interesting flavors, which keep things interesting. It's hard for me to place a "characteristc taste" to Domori, but if I were to do so, then the first flavors that come to mind are alcohol, dairy, and delicious [:D]

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February 8, 2005 - 6:55 pm
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i think delicious puts it best. and maybe yummy...

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There is a definite between those who get Domori and those who don't. Those who don't (and this includes some of the most respected chocolate people I know), seriously don't.

Those of us who like Domori, might call the 'cheese' cream.

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February 9, 2005 - 9:03 am
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quote:


Originally posted by martinc

There is a definite between those who get Domori and those who don't. Those who don't (and this includes some of the most respected chocolate people I know), seriously don't.


Well, I guess I am in the "don't" category for now. But never say never, I once thought 70% was waaaayyy too dark for a chocolate, too.

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February 9, 2005 - 10:22 am
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i measure all chocolates against domori. domori is a completely different experience and i think only pralus comes close.
i pretty much disregard anything else as not being chocolate, which of course is not true. maybe domori's product requires a new name, especially since they try to preserve the pure essence of the bean.

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February 9, 2005 - 11:04 am
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quote:


Originally posted by alex_h

domori is a completely different experience


Well, that is certainly true!

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Well, I am among the people who love Domori.. Nice to meet you in Tromsø, by the way.

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February 9, 2005 - 3:27 pm
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another convert! yeah! maybe instead of going to new york, london, tokyo, we should all meet in tromso 😉

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I don't know, Martin. Do you mean cream as in heavy (double) cream, or as in cream cheese? I tasted a distinct bleu cheese flavor in Puro, but I think you and I are on the same wavelength, though. There IS a distinct dariy tone to Domori. Cream or butter is a definite flavor I detect in a lot of other Domori bars, though.

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February 15, 2005 - 9:40 am
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btw, polar, which domori bar(s) did you try? the meaty impression you had reminds me of carupano.

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February 15, 2005 - 10:08 am
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quote:


Originally posted by alex_h

btw, polar, which domori bar(s) did you try? the meaty impression you had reminds me of carupano.



Porcelana, Puertomar and an 80% with salt and fructose. I don't remember exactly, but Legodude surely knows. The meat was most prominent in the Puertomar, but I think this is a general Domori feature.

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February 15, 2005 - 2:54 pm
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ohmigod! you guys had the 80%?! damn! that's a great one!
i think lone mentioned that she wanted to send/give lego some. so it must be from her san jose ocumare 61 box, right?
damn shame i don't have any more.

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