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Masur
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September 12, 2006 - 5:40 am
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"Hacienda bukare" is new to this list. Thank's Robert.

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does anyone know where stainer gets their chocolate made?
the packaging strongly resembles that of domori's chacao...

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I asked myself exactly the same. The whole packaging looks very Domori-like. Moreover I had the impression that the chocolates even taste Domori-like. But I do not know anything myself.

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A quote from Michel Cluizel webste:

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For a long time now, the profession as a whole has agreed that the activity of "transformer of cocoa beans into chocolate" needed a name. This lack of a word is due to the fact that it is a rare activity : only thirty or so world-wide the number of companies of national or international size that actually carry it out.
Chocolaterie Cluizel wanted to make up for this absence of a word and search for a term. "Cacaofèvier" is the combination of the words "cacao" and "fèves"("beans"). This neologism is intended for the whole of the profession

Read more in Journal de la Chocolaterie Cluizel (PDF-file):
[url]http://uk.cluizel.com/images/catalogues/journal_n10_ang_210706.pdf[/url]

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You mean they don't carry out any of the process in Ashland Oregon? I thought they just didn't grind and refine and roast...

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I make a short summary of all the companies we have now. I also add some new companies from the ECA. All companies marked with "*" are reporting their grindings to the European Cocoa Association (www.eurococoa.com). I think that's a good control. But this of course don't work for small or non european companies.

Amedei (Italy)
Bernachon (France)
Bonnat (France)
* Cadbury-Schweppes (UK)
* Callebaut (Belgium)
* Carletti (Denmark)
Chocolaterie de L'Opera (France)
Chocovic (Spain)
* Cioccolato Peyrano (Italy)
Domori (Italy)
El Rey (Venezuela)
* Euromar (Germany)
Felchlin (Swizerland)
* Ferrero (Italy)
Grenada Chocolate Company (Grenada)
Guittard (USA)
Haigh's Chocolates (Australia)
* Hachez (Germany)
Hacienda bukare (Venezuela)
Hershey's (USA)
* Herza (Germany)
* ICAM (Italy)
Jacques Torres (USA)
* Kraft Foods
* Lindt
* Ludwig (Germany)
* Ludwig Weinrich (Germany)
* Majani (Italy)
Malagasy (Madagascar)
Michel Cluizel (France)
* Natra (Spain)
* Nestle
Pierre Marcolini (Belgium)
Plantations (Ecuador)
Pralus (France)
Sharffen Berger (USA)
* Storck (Germany)
* Toms (Denmark)
Valrhona (France)
Weiss (France)

Starts with the bean but ends before bar:
* ADM (USA)
* Amajaro (UK)
Belcolade (Belgium)
Blommer (USA)
* Cargill (USA)
* ECOM/Dutch Cocoa (Netherlands)
* Fuchs & Hoffmann (Germany)
* Kessko (Germany)
* Schokinag (Germany)
* Schwartauer Werke, KVB (Germany)

Mars (Masterfood) someone said, but I'm not sure about that because Masterfoods closed it's grinding in Europe some years before. Maybe they still do it in the USA.

Arne

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A few corrections:

Although Amajaro have their headquarters in London, they don't process in the UK. See http://www.armajaro.com/defaul.....?stream=24 . Plantations are not a chocolate maker, it's made by Tulicorp, as discussed on page 2 of this thread - though probably the chocolate is actually ground by Ecuacocao.

I think we'd have to include companies who make couverture as bean to bar. It's finished chocolate that counts, not retail form. So Belcolade should be in the first list I think, maybe a few more.

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DeVries
Ghirardelli
Richart (according to their claims, though I can't get much info)
Santander
Theo

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Not sure about Ghirardelli.

We can also add Amano, I happen to know they now have made something πŸ˜‰

We might need another category for 'makes from liquor', in which we could include Slitti and soon others as this new machine becomes more popular.

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Amano should be coming out with their chocolate soon...did you try some Martin? And if so are you free to comment on it? If not that is ok too...just wondering

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I agree with Martin. We need a category "makes from liquor".

What about companies sourcing their own beans but outsource manufacture to another company (whole or part of process)?

I've heard Jacques Torres stoped making his own chocolate. Chocolaterie de L'Opera is another company I question. What about Belcolade? Is the whole process inhouse?

Claudio Corallo (Sao Tome and Principe) should be added to the list. Limited sales has started in USA.
Coppeneur (Germany) is another one.

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Originally posted by martinc

Not sure about Ghirardelli.


Ghirardelli is owned by Lindt. So it's sort of academic. You can if you want classify them as bean to bar - remembering once again that it's under one corporate umbrella.

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I think we could, if they make from the bean in 'Ghirardelli' factories. If they just finish from industrial couverture, then I guess not.

Perhaps it would be better in these situations to name the maker Ghirardelli (Lindt) for clarity.

This list is looking pretty good. I've been looking at Wiki type software that would integrate with Wordpress in the Pod section. We could list the makers and gradually build up profiles with our combined knowledge. Editing of the Wiki would be limited to forum members. Worth doing?

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I think Taza Chocolate should be added to our list. Do you agree?
[url]http://www.tazachocolate.com/[/url]

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quote:


Originally posted by masur

I think Taza Chocolate should be added to our list. Do you agree?
[url]http://www.tazachocolate.com/[/url]

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Yes

And Tava too:
http://www.tava.com.au/

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Yes, Tava should be in the list. So should also US company Soma chocolatemaker:
[url]http://somachocolate.com/[/url]

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I would like to suggest adding Steve De Vries to the list. He is in Colorado, USA, and produces from bean to bar... very small operation. The website is http://www.devrieschocolate.com.

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Original Hawaiian Chocolate Factory is another bean to bar company:
[url]http://www.originalhawaiianchocolatefactory.com/[/url]

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Askinosie Chocolate is now a chocolate manufacturer...

http://www.askinosie.com

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Cocoa Grinding Reports from CMA - Chocolate Manufacturers Association in USA. Companies reporting First Quarter, 2007:

ADM Cocoa
The Hershey Company
Barry Callebaut North America
Masterfoods, USA
The Blommer Chocolate Co.
Nestle Chocolate & Confections
Brach's Confections, Inc.
Cargill Cocoa and Chocolate
Ghirardelli Chocolate Co.
World's Finest Chocolate, Inc.
Guittard Chocolate Co.

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