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February 14, 2005 - 8:35 pm
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ok, granted: exposure, yes; demand varying according to culture, ok. but what's this you're saying about environment? i don't really get it.

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I was relating how society's actions are based on its environment, and the more technologically advanced a society becomes, the more detached it becomes from the environment, i.e. the less reliant it becomes on what it has to offer locally. The automobile was a technological innovation that introduced new demands (e.g. gas), which in fact, were unobtainable in the local environment. As a result, we've drilled holes in the middle of the ocean to tap even more resources that our natural surroundings could not provide for us, i.e. we've broken our natural environmental constraints to seek new resources. This is the result of technology, and indeed, the two, along with society, are related and work in a cycle where each one is dependent upon the other. The more technologically advanced a society becomes, the more demands it requires, so as a result, it tames the environment even more to harness more energy for itself and the new demands that it has created for itself. Then, the whole thing spreads. Such is the case with chocolate, automobiles, and well, everything else.

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February 16, 2005 - 11:41 am
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'monte, this seems strange to me...' 😉

no, but seriously, i think i see what you're getting at. but that argument would support my opinion where i thought you were trying to contradict it. is that right?

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You said that society is its own environment and that it creates supply and demand. The latter statement is true, but these two issues need to be addressed separately and cannot be equated as the same thing. I think that's the problem here. The environment is society's constraints within in which it lives. Society draws from the environment, utilizes its resources: the environment is a non-living entity. But I see where you're coming from. Your perspective stems from a human interaction approach, where EVERY conceivable object a person can interact with becomes THAT environment. Well, you have to consider a biological reality, a cultural reality, and then the physical environmental reality, each of which is a constituent of our overall humanity. It's not easy to lump everything into one category and develop a unified theory that explains the machinations of humanity. Therefore, you cannot speak of society and environment as the same thing. Society, to some degree, is created by the local environment, then as that culture evolves via technological advancements, cross-cultural interaction occurs, new environments are introduced, and new demands are imposed upon society. Of course, all this leads to the theories of culutral evolution, mode of production, etc., but that's another story.

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The blog has not been updated since 22 February 2005. This is a new breaking record Martin. What's up?

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March 19, 2005 - 6:36 pm
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Yeah, Martin seems to be slacking off a little bit [;)]

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There's a few in the bag not quite got ready yet ... soon. Been busy updating the review technology for new reviewers 😉

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There's a few in the bag not quite got ready yet ... soon. Been busy updating the review technology for new reviewers 😉

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March 20, 2005 - 2:08 pm
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Trying to increase the number of posts, Martin?

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Trying to increase the number of posts, Martin?

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That's the pot calling the kettle black [;)]

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